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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 244 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'd exchange Reddit and X. The rate at which X is going downhill right now just cannot be beaten by anything.

[–] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Twitter(/X - such a bullshit crappy name) is the Kmart of web 2.0 companies. Just a husk of what it was and in a massive free fall decline.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It's basically a matter of a branded domain name and Mastodon will take over.

Governments and entities like the New York MTA are going to want something they control, rather than something that falls to the whims of some billionaire.

The tech for Mastodon is there. You just needs orgs that care less about reach and who trust people to come to them (like the New York MTA).

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Agreed. I mean I never expected Elon to be smart but good god is that dude an idiot. Everyone reading this could 100% do a better job in his shoes.

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[–] Hubi@feddit.de 136 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like it's unfair to include TikTok as it had a clear headstart by being a dumpster fire since the very start.

[–] Bananigans@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Musical.ly certainly was a thing.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago

Hey, the rebrand was successful!

Nobody associates it with paedos now and their “take existing videos and put our horrid moving shitty contrasted watermark on it” starting strat worked a dream

[–] SeekPie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It has been an dumpster fire before it was even made.

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[–] gosling@lemmy.world 119 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, TikTok was already bad to begin with but what did they do to deserve a spot next to Twitter? Did I miss something? Surely they can't do worse than trying to make their paid only, right?

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah TikTok is bad but it also works as expected.

Yeah it's the worst algorithm ever, basically spyware, bans LGBT+ people, etc. But that's quite frankly how it always worked.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Bans LGBT+ people

My fyp is full of bipoc LGBTQ+ people? Twitter on the other hand tries to feed me right wing news sources and disinformation all the time. There's a spectrum here and TikTok is far on the other side.

Also to be frank the algorithm is by far the best out of any company with a "for you" algorithm. It blows pretty much anything else out of the water entirely.

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[–] punseye@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

People rightfully call out TikTok as a spyware because of their ties with CCP, but how exactly are other social media giants and big tech any different as they too have ties with the CIA, FBI etc

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[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 99 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Does this reflect how the platform is actually doing or do we just like the circlejerk of wishing they would fail? Because everything I've seen says Reddit has been completely unaffected by the changes made and they're still getting more user signups, engagements and interaction/posts than ever.

Tik Tok also seems to be growing strong.

Twitter is a genuine laughing stalk and is pulling major shit.....but everyone still seems to be using it regularly.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

if you have been back to reddit, they might have growing numbers (probably due to shitty practices forcing you to use their app instead of mobile browser) etc. but the quality of discussions and the amount of bots just reposting the same comments skyrocketed.

I mean it's a huge site, it won't die, but if you look at it that way, Facebook is still alive, do you have a desire to spend time on that site though?

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

We can take a look at the comment count on major subreddits over time. Using the top 5 most commented listed on Subreddit Stats, and then using Social Rise to see comments per day (go down to "Graph of" and click "comments").

All except Starfield show comments cratering at the beginning of July, and they're not coming back. Obviously, Starfield is a special case given the release of the game. AITAH was also just starting to pick up and then had its jugular cut out. Across the board, there looks to be a 3 or 4 times reduction in comment rates.

Now, perhaps the site is still OK among the more niche subreddits. That'd take a lot longer to analyze. But it's clear the big traffic drivers are not pulling people in anymore.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 23 points 1 year ago

If popularity was all that mattered, McDonalds would have Michelin stars.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Only a good 0.1% of reddit actually "creates content" with the rest having only engagement via comments. A good 99% of those also don't do anything but lurk.

The people that make the content are also the ones more likely to switch to alternatives.

It's an engagement loop so while the amount of signups and accounts is unchanged, there is simply less content to keep people around and to monetize.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
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[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org 74 points 1 year ago

Crazy how TikTok don't even seem so bad anymore thanks to the other two completely fucking imploding.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

I think Twitter will be the largest fall.

Like, they went from publicly traded household name, used by news sites everywhere... to... well...

[–] chrizbie@lemmy.nz 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elons shenanigans has to be worse than spez surely

Spez just copies what daddy Musk does, so give it some time

[–] NewPerspective@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I know lemmy hates Reddit but X is easily taking the cake here. Do you think Elon is respecting ANY of the policies around old user data? If you were EVER on Twitter, Musk is all up in your business.

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I feel like unity is the most likely to die. Their users are way more likely to switch to an alternative than people using reddit

Unity alternatives are also way more known than reddit or twitter alternatives

[–] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

Also, anyone who wanted to leave Twitter, Reddit, or TikTok likely already have

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[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That text layout is…well dumpster fire is strong, but it’s definitely a smelly smolder

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Xitter is now enabling disinformation intentionally. Put ‘em at the top

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[–] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
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[–] ZWho63@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago

Yeah i also completely forgot Unity. This "Worst Dumpster Fire" ladder only had 3 spots.

[–] souma@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] Blastasaurus@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a race in which there are only losers.

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[–] netburnr@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A very easily stolen race, all you need is a USB stick

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[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Philips coming up fast in 4th place. CAN THEY BEAT TIKTOK?!

FIND OUT TOMORROW!

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[–] Hiccup@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think I've ever seen so many wish to devalue the companies at the same time. Let's not forget about robinhood also. I can't wait until reddit IPOs to short the shit out of it. You have to know their valuation is a farce and bullshit. The numbers are totally cooked there.

Edit: stupid autocorrect

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What did TikTok do recently? Reddit and TwittX I know about. Could have added Unity to the mix, even if they’re not social media.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

X and Reddit situations are kind of similar, but tiktok is shit for different reasons

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (37 children)

I don't use TikTok. Is that bad?

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Kotton@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Think your not going to be able to skip ads.

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's metagame factors to this.

Reddit users often hate Reddit but feel stuck in it without alternatives that they can accept.

Twitter (it's not X, fuck that silly aging "peaked in the XTREME 90s" divorce dad nonsense, I hope he cries more about it billionaire-tears ) has lost a lot of users and the ones that are left are devoted cultists that pay money for relevance symbols on their accounts. blue-check farquaad-point

TikTok has people that are hooked on the algorithm to the point that they may not bother even participating in any such survey because it isn't on TikTok.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unity bailed itself out eh?

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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