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[–] 601error@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 year ago

Obligatory “What could possibly go wrong? /s”

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.today 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For that thing that killed hundreds of monkeys? Yeah, sounds like a great plan.

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago

"only" 15-17 monkeys, but thousands of other animals, insanely depressing. the more you read about it, the more you will start to actually believe that the death of one particular primate could indeed be beneficial for humanity ...

On several occasions over the years, Musk has told employees to imagine they had a bomb strapped to their heads in an effort to get them to move faster, according to three sources who repeatedly heard the comment. On one occasion a few years ago, Musk told employees he would trigger a “market failure” at Neuralink unless they made more progress, a comment perceived by some employees as a threat to shut down operations, according to a former staffer who heard his comment. Five people who’ve worked on Neuralink’s animal experiments told Reuters they had raised concerns internally. They said they had advocated for a more traditional testing approach, in which researchers would test one element at a time in an animal study and draw relevant conclusions before moving on to more animal tests. Instead, these people said, Neuralink launches tests in quick succession before fixing issues in earlier tests or drawing complete conclusions. The result: More animals overall are tested and killed, in part because the approach leads to repeated tests. One former employee who asked management several years ago for more deliberate testing was told by a senior executive it wasn’t possible given Musk’s demands for speed, the employee said. Two people told Reuters they left the company over concerns about animal research.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there no government oversight for "Uhh no you aren't?"

Given the recent animal testing results this seems like assisted suicide

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

There was, they were not initially approved.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ole Musky should step up and prove how safe it is. If he gets one, I'll definitely get one.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 19 points 1 year ago

One implant to rule them all, one implant to find them, One implant to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He behaves like he already has one.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Oh shit, what if the purchase of Twitter, change to X, etc...etc...is all due to brain implant side effects... Someone get this conspiracy going!

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So then the thing that killed the monkeys was the smelling their smug farts all day? It all makes sense now...

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

He thinks we’re living in a simulation.

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lol this guy can't even make a car that doesn't kill someone or have a bumper that doesn't fall off

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I shudder to think what the human equivalent of "fully autonomous driving" or a launchpad explosion looks like.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Or even the human equivalent of a bumper falling off.

[–] cooljacob204@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All cars kill people. Don't Tesla's have a pretty decent safety rating?

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] cooljacob204@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay, instead of posting rage bait can you show me that more people are dying in/from Tesla's then other vehicles per mile driven?

And just to be clear, I don't own a car. Nor do I care for Teslas. But you can't claim it's a dangerous car while not comparing it to the rest of the industry. Cars in general are really fucking unsafe.

First rule of technology: if the increase in complexity and decrease in reliability outweigh the added tangible value, don't implement it. This is why it's usually best to avoid "smart" appliances or, you know, brain implants.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A good rule of thumb with computers and software is to never touch/buy an alpha/version 1.0 of any system as its best to let someone else sort out the major bugs.

This is the dilemma people trying to create wetware (brain-hardware interface) face. There will be problems and how the hell any experiments to advance this pass an ethics board is beyond me.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Holy shit that is beyond terrible. It reminds me of something William Gibson would write (tech wise) with the absurdity of Douglas Adams or Kurt Vonnegut mixed in.

And I can see this sort of thing happening again and again if this tech keeps developing over the next 50 years.

I would now revise this to never touch any wetware interface for the next 30 years and maybe by then it will be stable.

[–] chfour@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

that is just terrifying, imagine just suddenly going back to being completely blind, and then learning noone's really out there to fix it anymore because the company behind it just went poof one day

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If someone besides Musk was running things, I might be excited about the potential for progress… as it stands, though, I just can’t trust the guy.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 year ago

Given what is coming out about how the animal test subjects were treated, you'd be better off letting a random dentist poke at your brain

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Same.

Although I can't say I would trust one from a FAANG company much more.

[–] Krapulaolut@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll bet you need a lifetime subscription with that and get a blue verification mark on your forehead.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago

A 30 day lifetime subscription.

[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does it support full auto-think?

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 year ago

Whoever thinks getting one is a good idea already has it enabled.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I already have that and I'm not impressed

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago

I can see how a quadrapoligic or someone with ALS would be excited for this trial. I hope it goes well. It could give someone that is trapped in their body a new way to communicate with their loved ones.

[–] ulkesh@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

I mean look on the bright side. It’s Musk’s sycophants who would line up to die for something like this.

[–] nyakojiru@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People would need to be force to insert this shit to be competitive in the market. This sucks

[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is anyone up for starting a non religious Amish society?

[–] willybe@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Nice move there AI. I see what you're doing.

[–] waspentalive@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always mount a scratch test subject before testing or reconfiguring.

http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

They're all dead already.