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"Based on your consent, we may collect and use your biometric information for safety, security, and identification purposes," The revised policy of X(Twitter) is expected to go into effect on September 29, 2023.

The thing is, biometric data is permanent and can't be changed. If we share that with X, it could mean lifelong privacy risks. And seriously, I can't think of a single reason why Elon needs to know where I went to high school for data security purposes.

People keep talking about leaving Twitter, but when will they actually do that? I guess they'll just keep putting up with it, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

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[–] woshang@lemmy.world 151 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just for you guys to know, a Saudi teacher got death sentence over tweets, cuz it is linked to his identity, and now Elon even wants more specific data from users? People need to give up on Twitter!

[–] dilan@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Apparently, Elon did not get any lesson from the Saudi man’s death at all. Its so important for people to remain anonymous in the digital world.

Try this, I found people talking about this on Lemmy: https://www.alchemy.com/dapps/wiremin

So I downloaded, and from my experience so far on this decentralized social network, it has the ability to replace Twitter for those who care about privacy and are concerned with data breaches.

  • Using an Anonymous ID, it does not require either an email or a phone number when creating accounts.
  • It is decentralized, with no central cloud server to store our data.
  • There is no censorship; no one can ban your account or remove your content.
  • It connects the world widely, so no single country, government, or person can manipulate the content we see.
  • The feed/chat space, DMs, voice calls, and fast file/pic transfers are all end-to-end encrypted.
[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The saudi rulers are Elon's friends. There is nothing there for him to learn from.

[–] sab@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

No censorship / unable to delete content? What happens when somebody decides to post illegal content like CP? I know that's an easy target, but either it has a way to deal with that, or it's going to attract a very scary crowd, at least as a subset.

[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wiremin is closed source. Why would anyone use that over mastodon?

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[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

There's also mastodon and its part of the fediverse

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[–] woshang@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For safety, security purpose??? Bullshit

[–] Mrduckrocks@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

For safety and security of dictators around the the world, so its easier for them to identify critiques.

[–] r00ty@kbin.life 7 points 1 year ago

Security is what pretty much all companies use when collecting data. It's designed to stop you dead. Many people have been conditioned to see "security" as necessary.

Calls may be recorded for security and training purposes.

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Think of the children

[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not all. The company has further outlined in its upcoming privacy policy it "may use the information we collect and publicly available information to help train our machine learning or artificial intelligence models."

All artists better get the fuck off that plattform. I doubt he will stop at text.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I imagine that's going to be policy of most commercial online platforms going forward if the AI boom continues.

User pressure might keep it away from dedicated art sharing platforms, but general purpose social media will end up open season as a source of training data.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It already has. That’s why Twitter and reddit have tightened their API policies and locked down websites for non-signed in users. Not to prevent AI training… just so they can charge for it.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you trying to summon Louis Rossmann?

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[–] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a great new idiot test. Anyone who buys Musk’s reasoning is so stupid or dishonest that they can’t be trusted with anything.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's gotten to the point that I question anyone who links to Twitter now or has an account. Like why? Why not leave already?

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[–] veloxy@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This increasing interest in biometric data, not just from "X", is concerning to say the least

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[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Bless, they're always thinking about our safety.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Ahh yes, the company owned by Elon Musk, who famously called a diver a "pedophile" for criticizing his coffin submarine idea to rescue some kids. He's also slashed budgets and cut manpower in all the important departments at twitter. That's the person I'm most likely to trust with my personal information.

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How exactly do they plan to collect biometric data? In most platforms biometric data remains on device.

Perhaps Elmo will try spinning some sort of WorldCoin style biometric crypto scheme next.

[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 12 points 1 year ago

They'll simply ask for it and people will give it in order to keep using the platform.

Google Ads asked me (a private individual) to provide my drivers license or passport in order to verify an organization's Google Ads account, or else the account will be suspended. I understand verifying the organization via governed registration records, that makes sense. But requiring an emoloyee or volunteer's passport?

The account is just going to get suspended.

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The issue here isn't that Elon wants your biometric data.

The issue is that there will be a bunch of absolute idiots who freely give him their data.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue here isn’t that Elon wants your biometric data.

No, that is the issue. Everyone can decide if they want to or not. I assume that most here are smart enough not to.

The issue is that there will be a bunch of absolute idiots who freely give him their data.

If people want to give that info away, then who am I to stop them?

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I think it's naive to frame it as "wanting to give data" but more that they're allowing themselves to be exploited because many simply don't even know what's in the policy, there are many who concede that they can't do without the platform, and then simply folks who don't know better. I highly doubt there's any significant number of people who understand the policy and happily consent even if they could easily give up the platform instead.

So I think they're both problems. A platform needing data beyond what's necessary to provide the service AND that most people will either concede defeat or not know better.

[–] TheGreatFox@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Idk, sounds like victim blaming to me.

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[–] pooperNickel@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought a lot of people did leave Twitter. I did a few months ago.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

A large amount of people I know said that, and actually did it. For the rest, the alternatives are not big enough to farm clicks off ragebait and AI "art"

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Why would anybody do this? To access a service so bad it keeps falling?

No thanks, dipshit

[–] djmarcone@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

X is safe and effective?

Since Elon has been very transparent about his goal of making X the everything app, by adding all this stuff and biometrics.... For security?

What could possibly go wrong?

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

He's also friends with Putin & other autocrats.

What could go wrong?

Oh yeah...Elon has been known to ban every antifascist. & he wants access to all of their information.

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Next they're gonna want blood and semen samples.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ooh, are they gonna come fellate me?

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[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sadly, plenty of idiots will gladly hand over whatever he wants. Even if you COULD trust that he wouldn't use your data for nefarious purposes, why would you want yet ANOTHER company to have the complete story of your life in a hackable database? Remember the Equifax data breach? Guess most people don't.

[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember the Equifax data breach?

Remember how we sent every C-level to prison for twenty years and fined the company out of existence? lol jk corporations are infallible and it's our fault our data was held by a private company without our consent.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Well, most celebs and e-celebs should get off X pretty much immediately, because at this rate this data will inevitably gets leaked somewhere for a Blue Checkmark.

Also, impersonating celebrities? On the Internet? Who would do such a thing?

(Crypto is so dumb by the way.)

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

anndd profile I made in the first month of twitter being a thing is gone

[–] MattTheTekie@lemmy.test72.eu.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just deleted my "X" because of this. I've been meaning for a while to get off of "X".

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[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I guess we're going nna keep hammering those nails into the coffin huh?

Not that im complaining. I've always hated twitter. I'll gladly watch the dumpster fire burn.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I read identifying purposes and thought they were doing some kind of philosophy experiment on people's online behavior and their life purposes

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[–] abnormal_123@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I’m so intrigued about bot biometrics data science!

[–] viking@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Elon can eat my ass.

(Or maybe not.)

[–] Fraylor@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Want X to have a stool sample too?

[–] mvilain@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

I read this towards the end of August. I finally deactivated my Twitter account which has been "restricted" since April. So long and thanks for all the fish.

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