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[–] silvercove@lemdro.id 109 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Also lemmy.world is not the most stable instance and experiences a lot of downtime. My user experience got a lot better after I moved out of lemmy.world.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It experiences a lot of downtime because the alt right kids who got defederated keep using 4chans ddos tool to bring it down...

It's not going down from normal user load.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If only people knew how hard the staff was working to improve things and keep it up.

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[–] gk99@beehaw.org 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've explicitly been using my beehaw.org account pretty much exclusively because of the constant DDOS attacks on lemmy.world.

Kinda funny how their plan to seemingly kill Lemmy is just helping it stay decentralized by pushing people to other instances.

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[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 79 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Sucks but if Lemmy.World is gonna be the "face" of Lemmy it's probably best to keep the shadier sides of the fediverse out. Just to keep the damn lawyer trolls off our back.

Plus it keeps the "uninitiated normies" out of the Piracy instance. At least until they know.

[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Don't you all love democracy?

Let's vote on who is the face of the fediverse.

xi-vote

hexbear-retro

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Freeanotherday@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's our actual logo.

hexbear-chapochat

My obvious bias aside it is a banger logo.

It comes in lots off different flavors.

hexbear-lesbian hexbear-non-binary hexbear-trans :hexbear-bi-2 hexbear-gay-pride

hexbear-posadist hexbear-pride hexbear sicko-hexbear

[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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[–] marx_mentat@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They will never be the face because they're always down.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

FWIW this is one of the most frequent communities I see while browsing. I don't mind it but it's definitely a bad look if they want lemmy.world to appeal to the everyman.

I've noticed a lot more "normie" content in the past few weeks so it definitely seems like the site is attracting more than just techy people now.

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[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hot take: .world and others banning/blocking /c/ is better for the fediverse and for piracy. It means less eyes on piracy discussions and incentivizes users to spread out to other instances instead of just all using .world.

[–] Skoobie@lemmy.film 17 points 1 year ago

Fantastic take. Imagine a conglomerate of smaller instances that largely make no waves and allow 70% of the community to just see what they want. Dare to dream.

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[–] vidumec@lemm.ee 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

i feel like blocking of instances leads to worse echo chambers than subreddits themselves. We gonna have bubbles of federation networks that don't federate with each other. E.g. lefties, righties, "dark web" illegal shit, kinky shit, and instances that federate with all of them will be blocked by other instances because "use my blacklist or get defederated". This is gonna lead to hell for users having to create fifty accounts for each bubble. Aint nobody got time for that.

i wish it remained a user's option to block/unblock content they don't/do want to see. Each instance could provide their "recommended" default list of enabled instances, and user can go and enable others, like how NSFW toggle works. Maybe group instances into categories with tags or something, like "porn", "memes", "tankies", "nazis", "warez", etc

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're gonna need a Lemmy client that can log into multiple accounts at the same time and display a combined feed of allof those accounts...

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Liftoff has been doing that for A while

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

Holy fucking shit they're blocking piracy? What a bunch of losers. Get off the anti-corporate platform built on copyleft principles if you have a problem with piracy.

[–] tails__miles_prower@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The losers are commenting on this site as well.

https://hexbear.net/post/317675

Transphobia? That's cool with them. Treating food workers like shit? Also fine. But watch a copy of a movie? "Horrible theft". There are people dying over preventable causes due to patents that aren't even held by the creators. I hate liberals

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[–] makeasnek@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users can't subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.

Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, that's the whole idea of federation.

De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.

Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. That's why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.

Lemmy's strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.

De-federation is bad.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

defederation is good for nazi and CSAM instances. no one should touch either with a 10ft pole. there's absolutely no reason to give them a larger platform.

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[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Lemmy.world is turning vanilla. They closed the shrooms community too!

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[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Facilitating Piracy no matter how you put it is wrong and illegal, it is wrong and illegal to support people who do it.

Remember Netizen, when you're pirating Disney, you're downloading communism! programming-communism

[–] bjornp_@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Facilitating Piracy no matter how you put it is wrong and illegal, it is wrong and illegal to support people who do it.

I love how some people assume that everyone agrees on the ethics of piracy

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"You wouldn't download a communism"

A would download & 3D print both communism & Disney, then watch them fight

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[–] yukichigai@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I think lemmy.world is about to be rudely made aware of how many pirates were on their site.

[–] GreenMario@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Might help lighten their load.

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[–] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

They're not making any money from this anyway

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[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 31 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Where is the piracy? (Asking for a friend.)

[–] matey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 25 points 1 year ago

Welcome fellow pirate!

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The only thing that makes data useful to humanity is the fact that it can be copied - not copying data is unethical.

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[–] olizet@lemmy.works 23 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I have created my own instance. With blackjack! And hookers, err, NSFW.

I found a cheap VPS and the easy_deploy script from git, that's how it started. And for 10 €/month I'll keep it going with a user count of 1.

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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh…well I know what I’m about to do then. If I wanted some cunt to have unrestricted control over the content I see I would have stayed with Reddit and that pigboy spez.

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago (20 children)

Oh do please tell me about this "piracy" you speak of. Pirates are my people, I sailed the seas with them back in 1998 and my 28 kilobaud modem. Unfortunately I have lost sight of them in the private tracker wars.

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[–] TheMadnessKing@lemdro.id 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Any Lemmy instance list which shows communities that have been defed by each instances? Should help new users make better choices.

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[–] Millie@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've begun blocking their communities in my accounts and I plan to defederate from them when i get home. Fuck em. Place is infested with exploding heads anyway.

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