lemmy.world deleted their copy of it (due to site rules, and prompted by a concerned Internet citizen)
It's probably the biggest Community in all of Lemmy, so the ramifications will be interesting.
this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2023
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lemmy.world has been acting very weird lately. Almost like they are the one and the only authority of Lemmy.
I moved to lemm.ee from lemmy.world after that whole hack thing a few weeks ago and it seems like lemmy.world has been going through some weird shit ever sense.
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It's their instance, they are free to do as they wish to comply with their local regulations
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More like PEOPLE are acting like they're the only authority of Lemmy.
The whole point of Lemmy is that unlike Reddit, you can give middle fingers akimbo to the server and still participate.
It's not that difficult to jump ship.
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Hexbear drove them mad.
Yea… it’s time to boogie off this instance for a while before they turn into Reddit Jr.
I'd mind less if their own instance wasn't so broken.
Ye I think I need to start my own instance, That's the only way I can get away from bullshit like this
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oh well better late than never to migrate i spose
~~EDIT: nvm looks like dbzer0 has like 0 moderation (users just uploading gore to random subs and other shit) so can't blame lemmy world admin from having to defed. Shame.~~
EDIT EDIT: oh its just anti piracy, i thought it was a defed !
lemmy.world hasn't defedered from lemmy.dbzer0.com entirely, they've just blocked the piracy community.
Such is the beauty of lemmy
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Official statement
Making official statements on Discord, and not Lemmy is WILD
Is allowing access to piracy resources the same as hosting piracy resources? Is Comcast at risk of being shut down because they didn't block everyone's access to RARBG? This is largely rhetorical; the answer is "no". lemmy.world's admins are not being honest.
Comcast has money to defend itself. That's a huge difference.
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Welp, hopefully more people simply move instances.
Yeah, it sucks but it makes sense, there is no one to defend those volunteer individuals if anyone wants to go after them.
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Lots of folks here with strong opinions that have never dealt with legal proceedings, or an itemized bill calculated in 6-minute increments.
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They did what? How are they suppose to tell me which communities I can check and which I am not allowed to see?
Time to move to a new instance, good riddance
How are they suppose to tell me which communities I can check and which I am not allowed to see?
Time to move to a new instance, good riddance
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Huh? The Piracy community on dbzer0 is still up, just checked.
People on LW can't see it anymore apparently
Another reason to create an account on a smaller instance rather than .world
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Lemmy.world blocks problematic communities all the time. The bigger your platform grows, the more important moderation becomes. If you want to browse it, you'll have to register an account with another server, or host your own instance.
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Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users can’t subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.
Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, that’s the whole idea of federation.
De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.
Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. That’s why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.
Lemmy’s strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.
Defederation is bad.
It’s not really apt to compare email to Lemmy. Email is a one-to-one communication method, it’s like sending a letter in the mail. In the same way a mail carrier isn’t culpable if they deliver a package of drugs, Google isn’t responsible for delivering illegal emails. On Lemmy though, you’re hosting a copy of the post locally on your instance. It’s accessible to users as well as people who aren’t signed in.
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Great, time to change instance. At least it will have > 10% uptime
lemmy.world blocked it. I guess it is their right to do so, if you want to keep access to it move to another instance (it is not healthy that so many people are on LW).
Its not gone. Its just blocked by lemmy.world...
Its hosted on dbzer0
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