Thanks European Union ❤️
this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2023
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The Brussels effect: the burssels effect
The term Brussels effect was coined in 2012 by Professor Anu Bradford of Columbia Law School[1][2][3] and named after the similar California Effect that can be seen within the United States.
The Brussels effect is the process of unilateral regulatory globalisation caused by the European Union de facto (but not necessarily de jure) externalising its laws outside its borders through market mechanisms.
The California effect is the shift of consumer, environmental and other regulations in the direction of political jurisdictions with stricter regulatory standards. The name is derived from the spread of some advanced environmental regulatory standards that were originally adopted by the U.S. state of California and eventually adopted in other states.
The Brussels/California effects are when the EU/California make a law that applies to the EU/California but for various reasons is followed globally/across the US
I mean, we knew they were going to have to make usb-c phones since the EU and the Saudis both are going to require it. And they’ve been making usb-c iPads for a while, I have a hundred of them at work
Apple knew it too. Even without pressure from the EU’s upcoming laws around USBC, they knew we would all riot if they clung to Lightning. iPads, Macs, have all moved on.
Just. USBC all the things. Let me die in a world with one fucking cable. Please. Can we at least do that as a society?
C'mon, Apple doesn't give a shit if people riot over USB.
The ONLY reason this is happening is regulation. Apple would keep their shitty proprietary wire forever if they could. Compatibility with other hardware does not matter to a company with a fully closed ecosystem like Apple.
It’s really frustrating how stubborn and backward Apple has been with the iPhone. It’s 100% just so they can use a proprietary cable.
The crazy thing is they were on the consortium that helped develop USB-C and had one of the very first computers to even have the port! MacBook Pros were ALL USB-C at a time when there were close to zero accessory makers supporting the then brand new cable.
Anyway, extremely happy that lightning will finally die.
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Incoming proprietary cable that won’t let you data transfer or charge beyond 5w if you use a generic one.
Is that allowed with the EU regulations?
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I can finally ask iPhone users for a charger. The world is healing
Bet you they will make their cable charge non iPhones slower... adding some proprietary tech inside the charger, phone or cable which only allows fast charging on Official Apple Certified products etc.
EU regulations banned that idea from taking place thankfully
just imagine how dystopian our world would be if there was no EU
I don’t know why people think this. USB-C is on every Apple product except iPhone and AirPods, and they were quite an early adopter of it, putting it on the MacBook in 2015. For comparison, the first Samsung phone with USB-C was the Note 7, 1.5 years later.
They’ve done nothing proprietary with it in all that time, and Apple products with USB-C have followed the spec quite closely (unlike offenders such as Nintendo). Outside of unsubstantiated rumours and FUD, there’s no reason to think they’ll do anything different.
Genuinely curious, how did Nintendo change their specs for USB C? I still charge both my steam deck and switch off the charger my deck came with, but only the deck works with the usb-c to hdmi dongle I got. How does that work?
There was quite a scandal years ago because the Switch could get fried by third-party docks.
I've heard different explanations and I'm not 100% sure what's true.
Here's a good FAQ on the topic. https://switchchargers.com/nintendo-switch-bricking-faq/
If anyone knows more about this, please share! I'm not sure if the Switch is indeed noncompliant or if that was just a rumor/hypothesis.
There is a paper of one thirdparty producer, that explains what happens in cheap products: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/08/heres-why-nintendo-switch-consoles-keep-frying/
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They do have a solid rumor that they're sticking with USB 2.0 speeds for for the USB C iPhone and that non-MFI certified cables may be slow charging only, so while I've got my finger's crossed that's false since I'm an iPhone guy, Apple still seems to be looking for a way to skirt the EU and still get the accessory cut.
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I've almost swapped to Apple a few times and now with Google and the DRM bit, even though I use Firefox it still grinds my gears.
Come September I may have my first iPhone.
From my Pixel 6 pro
I have a 14 pro max and lack of usb c is probably the only thing I don’t like about the phone.
My personal phone is a second hand iPhone XS, upgraded from a OnePlus One, and my work phone is a Pixel 6.
The XS is the best phone I’ve ever had, and I enjoy using it. Can’t say the same for the Pixel.
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Only when they allow real sideloading without a server/Paid Apple Dev License
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I'm kind of surprised they didn't just drop a pretty altogether and rely on mag-safe and airdrop.
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iPhone 15 having USB-C is a great example of public pressure—and legislation, of course—being effective in enacting meaningful change.
⬜ Getting Apple to adopt RCS messaging is next.
I read a little bit into that (the third thing google spit out, but I use Adblock, VPN and no account and cookies so they loose money)
Isn’t that the same as iMessage but between all operating systems?
Incredible, it looks exactly like a USB-C port.
Lightning-C!
It's like every family will get a raise since they don't have to buy $100 in cables every year
I'm still on the same USBC cable and a USBC car charger that I got with my pixel 1 (8 years ago)
That’s great if you have usb-c devices already (which somehow most people do). I’m going to have to replace every charger in multiple places (3-7 at home, 2 in the car, 3 at work) with entirely new ones. I literally have nothing that charges from usb-c.
That’s great if you have usb-c devices already (which somehow most people do).
Are you really surprised that most people have some sort of device with a connector that came out 8 years ago? This isn’t exactly new technology, It’s so common now it’s even on super cheap stuff. I bought an electronic lighter from Amazon last summer and it charges with USB C.
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toss
Don’t throw them out yet if they work flawlessly. Give them to someone you know or just leave them somewhere. Also, you might need your old iPhone for some reason and so you should probably keep one (possibly semi-broken) cable.
Start selling your charge cords now.
The fact that they had to be legally forced to do this shows that users were never in their best interest.
It would be pretty big if true. End of an era.
Need iPhone 16 or 17 with a waterproof replaceable battery so I can swap batteries while camping. Not needing to fuss with solar chargers would be awesome.
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