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[–] ambiguous_yelp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

at the end of the day no matter what vegans do our existence is a threat to the cognitive dissonance of meat eaters, I have two options: I can be so nonchalant that it seems like I'm actually ok with people killing animals needlesly and therefore theres no reason to question their beliefs or I can actually put a bit of passion into my defense of animals and risk people like you for some reason getting annoyed that my advocacy isnt effective? (Like if you are against veganism why correct me while im making a mistake right clearly theres something else going on here psychologically why you feel the need to correct me) Meanwhile lots of people actually do change their mind on veganism from a no nonsense approach see people like joey carbstrong and earthling ed for examples of how that can be done well

[–] smooth_jazz_warlady@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, intellectually I agree that the current animal industry has to go at some point soon, albeit mostly for efficiency/environmental impact reasons, it's just that emotionally I find preachy vegans to be annoying as fuck. Especially given that as a neurodivergent person, a lot of us would have trouble cutting meat out of our diets, for samefood/sensory issue reasons (many vegetable textures I've felt over the years give me such bad vibes that I have to struggle to stop my gag reflex from kicking in), and the deeply ableist ways a lot of vegans react to this is concerning and borderline eugenicist.

And it's just, the Gordian Knot-cutting development of lab-grown meat (and also vat milk/eggs) becoming cheaper and less resource intensive than regular meat is pretty close, especially since the same technology also lets you grow replacement human organs from a patient's own cells, a holy grail of medicine. That will 100% cut the animal industry's legs out from underneath it, entirely because they simply will not be able compete in efficiency and cost, and reframes the choice from "noticeable drop in what and where you can eat in exchange for a moral benefit that you can't see for yourself" to "same thing, but cheaper and with a moral benefit you still can't see but can be more sure of because mass adoption". Also it'll be funny watching conspiracy nuts bankrupt themselves spending more and more on trying to hunt down "real, non-virus meat".

And if that day never comes youll just keep paying for innocent animals to be killed? Theres very little that can excuse slicing the throat of an innocent being