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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (16 children)

It’s not about sitting in your attic and picking off starving people who are looking for a meal while you sit on a cache of food and ammunition.

Unfortunately for many it is.

I don't really generally circulate with far right wing folk. However this is one place that overlaps with my interests. One of the most unlikely intersections between the far left and the far right is home solar power. When you start to stray way from purely commercial groups trying to sell you stuff, you get to the DIY solar community.

Here you'll find multi-gun toting, hardcore Randian libertarians, that "want the damn government control out of their lives" right next too tree hugging, LGBTQ/feminist equality supporting, carbon-neutralling liberals. Both groups squint hard not to see who they're talking to or asking for advice on Charge Controllers, panel interconnects, AC inverter config settings, or off-grid battery solutions. Every now and then one person from one side or the other won't be able to help themselves and they'll make reference to their particular extreme political views. Everyone just holds their breath hoping a fight doesn't break out and most of the time its just ignored by both sides.

In here you'll find those far right preppers and they are convinced that they'll have to be 100% self supporting when the government falls "real soon now".

[–] the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Unfortunately for the gunmen in this example, their guns will wear and tear. A crucial part or two will fail and not be replaceable. Then their entire strategy of "kill everyone else" will fall apart. And that's aside from the fact that human societies have always flourished because we have worked with rather than against each other.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Unfortunately for the gunmen in this example, their guns will wear and tear.

Their guns will be worthless long before they wear out. They are going to run out of ammo eventually. None of these folks are capable of manufacturing modern nitrocellulose gun powder or primer caps necessary to reload their fancy rifles and handguns. I don't even see them taking a more pragmatic path of learning how to make old school black powder for muzzle loaders which they could conceivable made in their bunkers. Admittedly, I'm on the tree-hugger/equality side and don't even own a gun. These are just my observations from outside their group.

Were these preppers more honest with themselves, there would be another area they would overlap with many on the far left: Cosplay.

And that’s aside from the fact that human societies have always flourished because we have worked with rather than against each other.

100% agree. Our survival as a species has always depended on us working together.

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

None of these folks are capable of manufacturing modern nitrocellulose gun powder or primer caps necessary to reload their fancy rifles and handguns.

This gave me a thought, would having equipment for ammonia and other chemicals (for fertiliser as well as explosives) be useful for preppers?

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Useful in what what? Farming? Sure.

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