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[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This is an example of why I think it's important to distinguish between politicians and voters when saying *Republicans want X." Because what they want or believe are often at odds. It would help if we could convince the voters of that.

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Politicians are the elected representatives of the voters. If the politicians want something their voters don’t then why are they being elected.

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you serious? Because they lie. And because they demonize the other side so hard, their base will vote for them no matter what. For example, polling shows most republican voters are not in favor of extreme abortion restrictions. They want abortion up to a certain point and for certain reasons. But when they're told the other side is murdering full-norn babies, they go for what seems to them like the lesser evil.

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

polling shows most republican voters are *not* in favor of extreme abortion restrictions. They want abortion up to a certain point and for certain reasons.

So those polled voters indicate what they want in a poll.

But when they're told the other side is murdering full-norn babies, they go for what seems to them like the lesser evil.

Yet those same voters elect (choose) the politicians (their representatives who speak for them) who want something different.

Again I ask why a distinction should be made, in regards to voters and politicians, when discussing party. Seems to me like both groups, voters and politicians, say one thing and do another.

As Maya Angelou once said, “When someone tells you who they are, believe them.”

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So those polled voters indicate what they want in a poll. Yet those same voters elect (choose) the politicians (their representatives who speak for them) who want something different.

By that logic, everyone who votes for Harris supports Israel's genocide against Palestine. Voters make the choice they feel is best out of what they're given.

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Unless I missed something about how Kamala Harris is running for President of Israel, then no.

Though it would mean anybody who votes for Harris, should she be elected, shares responsibility for her policies, including any enacted around Israel.

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Because understanding people's motivations is valuable in figuring out how to reach them. But I'm obviously fucking up the circle jerk.

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