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“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”

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[–] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, to be relevant they need to win some elections in large cities and state legislatures. That would be the base necessary to start winning congressional seats and then work up from there. Because the Jill Stein narcissism tour every four years is clearly doing more harm than good.

And it would be the best thing in the world for the Dems. They need cogent and real opposition and right now they’re just running against crazies - which is important, but doesn’t do much for establishing an agenda. A functional Green Party would actually help pull the Dems back more to the left.

[–] shitescalates@midwest.social 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The best part of running for a state legislature or congressional position is that they could team with democrats to block the GOP, so unlike the presidential election you aren't voting against your interest for electing a third party.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Those races are also FPTP so they do risk the same spoiler effect. Maybe it would do for a deep blue area?

I'm searching around and something like CA-12 was 90% Biden. Candidates could split that like five or six ways and still not have any danger of a Repub.

I don't think there are any state level positions that would accommodate that. Even Vermont is only D+16, so the third party is a larger risk.

[–] DeadWorld@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Seeing the disrepair the Republicans have left the south in, I wonder if there is room to do a grass roots campaign in more red areas with a focus of charity and community service? "We are here to help. No, we are not Dems" might work in Louisiana or Alabama

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I actually think that would work. Campaign on: Charity, Community, and Clean Environment.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Probably, but that would require the Greens to be competent.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There are some parts of the US where they are not first-past-the-post.

  • Alaska - uses top 4 primary + ranked choice general
  • Maine - uses ranked choice voting
  • California & Washington - use a top-two primary

The Greens could effectively run in those places, as well as races where the Democrats aren't running a candidate.

But when I see them running for local office, they're basically running to be on the ballot, not mounting a serious effort to win.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Says quite a bit that Greens aren't even doing much in California or Washington.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

You can also vote the Democratic primaries, too.

That worked out, suprisingly well, for Sanders. Think about how much change you could affect voting for Sanderses at every level.