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Israel carried out its operation against Hezbollah on Tuesday by hiding explosive material within a new batch of Taiwanese-made pagers imported into Lebanon, according to American and other officials briefed on the operation.

The pagers, which Hezbollah had ordered from Gold Apollo in Taiwan, had been tampered with before they reached Lebanon, according to some of the officials. Most were the company’s AP924 model, though three other Gold Apollo models were also included in the shipment.

The explosive material, as little as one to two ounces, was implanted next to the battery in each pager, two of the officials said. A switch was also embedded that could be triggered remotely to detonate the explosives.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 81 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You could tell Israel did it by the wanton disregard of civilian casualties and the lack of a global governmental backlash against the act.

What I'm surprised is that were able to get them to believe the propaganda that pagers would be a much more secure communication medium.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The articles keep repeating "Hezbollah", but the target of the attack appears to have been the Iranian ambassador to Lebanon.

Much like the US bombing of an Iraqi airfield to kill the Iranian diplomatic delegation to Baghdad, this appears to be an entirely illegal and recklessly deployed assassination plot aimed at one guy. The thousands of injuries and the eight dead (at least two being children under the age of 11) are just collateral damage the IDF has once again blanket-tagged as "Evil Muslim Militants".

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

That article doesn't really indicate that one person was the target, nor does making 3000 pagers or whatever they were into bombs. I find it more likely that the Iranian delegation representative was just meeting with Hezbollah at the time or received one of their pagers to stay in communication. Nothing in the articles you link suggests this was done just to target them, just that they were affected.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are anything but. Somebody with a laptop and a $20 USB SDR stick can see every piece of text flying though the air.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

They might be in regards to emanation.

It’s funny how confident comments like these are without really thinking it though.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Hezbollah is over that-a-way, buddy.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Go ahead, explain yourself then, since you seem to think I'm some sort of idiot. Because I have actually done this. And no vague psuedointellectual nonsense, technical details please. Frequencies, protocols, software, that sort of thing. Let's hear your experience in the field.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My brother in christ, you are still missing the point.

So you pick up a message that reads "867-5309" and the receiver picks up their landline and calls.

So you have a phone number now. One that you probably already had given the organization we're talking about. If the call is staying landline and within the boundaries of their country, you aren't picking up shit with your SDR. You need to have a physical tap somewhere.

They swapped cell phones which send and receive for pagers that receive only. Think for 2 seconds what that means for tracking. To say nothing of also losing the fucking microphone, camera, GPS...

There's a reason pagers are allowed into SCIFs where phones and other devices which send are not.

There's more to security than your experience picking up unencrypted shit with an SDR.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I appreciate your explanation. Thank you. The point was, I'd have liked to see a comment like that from the start instead of the snarkiness. I tend to get irritated when people just insult each other going "nuh-uh" without any substance. Nobody learns shit that way. If somebody is wrong, just correct them.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I brought up emanations in my first reply…

I even couched it with a "might be" because I'm aware there's lots I don't know.

It wasn't that you may be wrong. It was your overconfidence and hyper-fixation on one type of security.

[–] Bennettiquette@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

with all respect, i think if you reread the original comment you might find it reads in a less vindictive tone than you originally read it in. text can be notoriously bad at conveying the difference between a generalized chuckle and a targeted insult, especially when the reader has experience or passion in the topic.