Why would anyone care who the stereotypical white dude is? That is giving importance/energy to the wrong thing. I didn't even really notice nor care who he was (and still don't). That said, I don't generate memes with him in it so I guess I'm doing my part. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] Senal@programming.dev 1 points 7 months ago

Are you genuinely struggling to understand why people who think he's actively saying hateful shit about trans people wouldn't necessarily want to increase his presence in the general Zeitgeist?

Or did you just want to slip in the "stereotypical white guy" dog whistle?

If you are actually struggling, i can probably help.

imagine a person saying horrible shit about you, specifically.

Now imagine they have a platform where they say this hateful shit to lots of people, enough that you sometimes run across these people and they also say hateful shit to you, perhaps worse.

Now imagine an unrelated meme is made with this persons face on it and you see it 5,10,15 times a week.

Now imagine that the comments on most of these memes feature a whole bunch of people defending this person and agreeing with the hateful shit they said about you.

I'd imagine that's why some people care.

Genuine question though, what would be the right thing to give the energy/importance to in this scenario?

[–] palad1n@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Do you have to specify whiteness? By definition, You are not far from him

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why would anyone care who the stereotypical white dude is?

Because he doesn’t deserve to be the guy in the meme. Think about all the other actually cool people who have been immortalized in silly memes, a lot of times they get interviewed and it is really funny. Everybody enjoys on some level that the person in the funny meme they are looking at is actually a real human being who has the goofy honor of being famous for the really specific, niche context of that meme.

Why give that joy to a complete asshole and loser? Why give it to a media personality who spreads hate? Who cares if nobody recognizes who Crowder is, Crowder doesn’t even deserve to be interfaced with as an anonymous white dude in a meme, it takes away the necessary shame Crowder should experience at every interface with the broader public.

[–] FritzGman@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago

I really don't give a shit about internet famous people and now, I also don't care why anyone else cares. I'm sorry I ever asked the question.

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Within the context of the meme it's a guy with a mug and an exploitable sign on his table. Nothing more.

This shit sounds pretty tiring, IMO :/

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you trying to suggest that the literal image of the man who created the meme has nothing to do with the man himself?

Yes I understand the question "who is that?" may not occur to you. It does to others, and results in this pile of dirt getting free traffic.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most memes have nothing to do with the person in the meme. I doubt crowder himself made the meme, even if he did it doesn't really matter as the meme has transcended the person st this point.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

His change my mind videos quite literally spawned the meme. His platform became more popular because of the meme.

Do you even know anything about crowder or are you just talking out of your ass?