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For immigration hardliners, the moment of leverage had finally arrived: More enforcement without amnesty. However, instead of seizing this likely once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, House Republicans and former President Trump argued that the bill was not the hardliner wish list they preferred and successfully convinced most Senate Republicans to block the bill.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 117 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Republicans would NEVER want to fix immigration and secure the border. They want those issues to get as messy as possible so that they can run election on those issues.

Same for healthcare - anyone even cares or can remember “repeal and replace Obamacare” anymore?

[–] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 40 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is exactly what I thought about abortion rights but they really went and plowed ahead on that.

Now they've shifted the culture wars over to trans rights and whatever other kinds of bigotry they can muster up. There's really no bottom to the depths of horribleness that they're willing to plumb.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And the abortion rights thing bit them in the ass, because it galvanized a lot of voters.

I think that dog catching the car moment hit home, and they won't let it happen again.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Part of the problem was it was unexpected, and it shows. If Republicans could have decided, they definitely wouldn't have had it passed for the reasons that you have indicated.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

important distinction that it wasn't the legislature that repealed abortion rights. it was a couple of true believers, unconcerned about reelection, that the party cheated the system to get them onto the supreme court. if they'd known their nominees were lying about their stances on roe, i doubt they'd have been confirmed.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

And a secure border means higher cost for farmers who employ a lot of immigrant labor. They don't want to hurt farmers who mostly vote republican. The end result is always demanding to close the border but never really doing this.

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That honestly doesn't matter. You can't fix it by their metrics as long as minorities exist. They don't NEED it to be an actual problem. The fact that currently the federal government is in actuality failing to handle refugees is just a bonus.