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[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not for the killings of innocent civilians, is all. This is mostly a fight between the oligarchs involved. I'm sure most actual ukrainians are fine, as most russians.

[โ€“] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Iโ€™m sure most actual ukrainians are fine,

Mmmmmmmm that's highly dependent. I follow the axiom of "where one nazi sits at a table with a dozen people, if the people there stay seated, there's now thirteen nazis in the room". I never saw any meaningful attempt to get away from that table from large swathes of Ukranian civilians save the ones that actually deserted.

[โ€“] Dolores@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

a better axiom is "could i apply the responsibility i'm expecting of civilians to children" fuck are ukrainian kids supposed to do about nazis in government? the disabled? pensioners?

and the ukrainian opposition parties that were banned & leaders jailed/disappeared---they aren't evidence ukrainians aren't all fash?

[โ€“] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I was under the impression most nazis were on the military. My country is mostly the same and as much as I hate them theres not much we can do about them rn. I think a similar situation applies to the rest of them outside the armies and police.

I don't sit at the table with them but they are out there still, regardless of how the rest of the working class thinks of them and most of us just need our next paycheck.