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[–] TAG@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ideally, the user should search for "books" communities and the top result should be the largest/most active community. If they don't like that community, they can try the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th result to see if they are better. Unfortunately, the Lemmy sort algorithm needs a lot of work.

[–] t_jpeg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

idk if i'm missing something but i use connect and this is what it does on the "communities" tab

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

For the communities I have searched for, both "Hot" and "Active" sort are bad (the main community about a topic is barely top 5, no other relevant results at the top of the list). When I switch to Top Year, I start to get good results.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

A system like that can't have a second books community, let alone a second or third. The current books community has 133 user. They're not going to have 13 communities split between them.

Instead they all have to accept, whoever is the biggest, (realistically, whoever is first) community, gets to shape the books discussion on lemmy forever. That's just how first mover advantage, compounding advantage works in this obviously broken system.

This will certainly spell the end of Lemmy. You think defederation is a problem, You've seen nothing yet.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You end up with one community with 8000 user , second community 17.

Unless there a major fuckup, only the biggest community is viable and gets seen by anyone. It sucks the air out for everything else. Because nobody is going to manually subscribe to 50 microscopic /c/books communities on as many servers.

That recreates Reddit mod power problem and it will kill Lemmy in the same way.

Maybe Lemmy simply already isn't viable, just a Reddit clone with meaningless federation feature that only decentralize unimportant stuff but not the strangleho lady that moderators have on communities.

The second community will never be viable because even if the first community messed up as bad as Reddit, we know less than 5% would even change their habits.

Lemmy is not spez proof, it empowers the spez as much as Reddit.

[–] TAG@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except even on Reddit we saw large communities split due to some issue (for example r/questionablecontent and r/QContent, one has 13k and the other has 5.3k subs).

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, many communities have these kinds of fuck ups. In the best case scenarios you have a new community half the size and with its attention split. The newcomers still get split between the schism after it happened. The result is multiple weaker communities.

And it take a really monumental fuck up to even get this low level of user action.

Look at reddit, the admins fucked over absolutely everyone and they've made it clear they're only starting. Look how hard it is to get people to come over.

While on the other hand, if most users go to /c/books and by default they see every /c/books on every federated server, then the problem is sidestepped entirely.

No single mod team can get a stranglehold on a community.

Each user gets to choose, by applying or subscribing to a blacklist/while of users or servers. Or they can raw dog it with the click of a button.

But if most users who go to /c/books end up on the "one big /c/books instance" then every other /c/books community except the biggest one, will be a desert that is not worth your time to post to.