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[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A Hillary win would have saved the Supreme Court. Now we are on precarious ground. There was no disadvantage in her winning

Let's face it - had she won, things would be way better than they are, and we wouldn't be in the constant fascist danger we are now.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep, you can blame the Dems and Clinton herself 100% for that one, given that we know Bernie would have won. She is directly responsible for things being as bad as they are.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

given that we know Bernie would have won

You don't know that at all. You didn't see the playbook against him.

[–] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

True, but to pretend the Democrats didn't actively sabotage their most popular candidate in favor of the "safe" choice.... twice... is a stretch.

I voted for Biden. Will vote again.

Voted for Hilary, too.

Not because I wanted to. Democrats don't seem to want to do much beyond maintain the status quo, at least at the presidential level.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Bernie was not their most popular candidate. This is an internet Fable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Graphical_summary_of_polling

It makes my head spin that people think Bernie lost because he couldn't overcome the most standard political maneuverings of the Democrats, and yet he would somehow overcome the political maneuverings of the Republican party which plays far dirtier than the Democratic party does. Does everyone forget the Bush Campaign spreading rumors that John McCain's adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually an illegitimate Black child from an affair? Or how about when they turned John Kerry's service in Vietnam into a something he only did for fame?