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Jon Stewart’s Apple TV Plus show ends, reportedly over coverage of AI and China (www.theverge.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/6745228

TLDR: Apple wants to keep china happy, Stewart was going after china in some way, Apple said don’t, Stewart walked, the show is dead.

Not surprising at all, but sad and shitty and definitely reduces my loyalty to the platform. Hosting Stewart seemed like a real power play from Apple, where conflict like this was inevitable, but they were basically saying, yes we know, but we believe in things and, as a big company with deep pockets that can therefore take risks, to prove it we’re hosting this show.

Changing their minds like this is worse than ever hosting the show in the first place as it shows they probably don’t know what they’re doing or believe in at all, like any big company, and just going for what seems cool, and undermining the very idea of a company like Apple running a streaming platform. I wonder if the Morning Show/Wars people are paying close attention.

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[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

But I thought Apple was the good guy, looking out for us folk and doing privacy-focused things!

What? That's just marketing garbage? Nah, surely Apple wouldn't just be a shitty company just like everyone else. Better buy some more overpriced products to support them!

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The privacy thing was always hiding the real truth. Apple will never be able to compete with Google on ads or tracking: they have neither the engineering chops nor the reach. By being "privacy first", it saves Apple money and cuts off a little of Google's revenue stream.

The benefit to customers was a secondary effect.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Apple's stance is more effectively like "Let's get to know each other in private, babe" than "privacy first".

[–] Globulart@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Has anyone ever really believed that? It became very apparent very quickly that their MO was getting customers to buy only Apple products and then to replace them as often as they could get away with.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dunno the state of stuff now, but my MacBook Pro is from 2011 and I still use it (with some upgrades)

And my phone is five years old, on its original battery, and is still faster than most of my friends’ phones lawl

[–] Globulart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What upgrades? Not doubting you, just curious what you've been able to do.

That was kinda the point I was making because apple don't really let you upgrade hardware so if you want an improved computer better go spend a couple grand on our shiny new one with a 0.2mm thinner screen!

They definitely make good products, and I advised my grandparents to stick to apple because it's more intuitive for a non techy person, and because they're all identical and customer support would be easier to deal with.

Phones matter a bit less I suppose because we're not all upgrading hardware in android phones, they did recently lose a court case for deliberately throttling speeds on old devices though didn't they?

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

16GB RAM and replaced the optical drive with a SSD!

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People love to hate on Apple products, but they are great, IMO.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

People hate on them because they are overpriced and they want complete control of your hardware and software.

You cannot repair or upgrade anything and you cannot install software they have not approved.

The experience takes a back seat to all of that. Never owned any Apple products and never will, unless the market or the EU puts sufficient pressure on them to cut out the bullshit.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hated them when I was a teen, but I suppose that was PowerBook era. I got older and realized that I only hated them because they couldn’t play games and were expensive.

Bought my first MacBook (ironically for playing games on the go—PC laptops were shit back in 2007) and after an unfortunate soft drink accident had it replaced in 2011 (for free woooo!) That’s the one I’m still using today.

I don’t use any Google products or services so my only choice is an iPhone, and I fucking love it. Each iPhone I’ve had lasted more than four years, while still running great. That’s more than I can say about my HTC Dream lawl, but that was first-Gen so I give it some leeway.

Still a PC builder all the way, have four of them. But people shitting on Apple for their products’ longevity are silly. The cost is high (usually) but they’ve got some quality shit that lasts.

[–] Globulart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My pc has lasted 14 years (and I expect another 40) and been capable of playing every game in that time because I've been able to upgrade it without dropping thousands at once.

Apple products are good for sure, but they don't let the consumer choose very much. Sometimes that's good (I always advocated apple products for my grandparents) but more often than not it's just annoying.

I buy a new android phone every 3ish years and give my old one to my mum, she's never had one break yet so all mine have had at least 5-6 years life before she upgrades to my latest old one (and possibly it still has years left). I don't buy the idea that Apple phones last longer than Android at all.