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[–] gosling@lemmy.world 119 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, TikTok was already bad to begin with but what did they do to deserve a spot next to Twitter? Did I miss something? Surely they can't do worse than trying to make their paid only, right?

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yeah TikTok is bad but it also works as expected.

Yeah it's the worst algorithm ever, basically spyware, bans LGBT+ people, etc. But that's quite frankly how it always worked.

[–] Sl00k@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bans LGBT+ people

My fyp is full of bipoc LGBTQ+ people? Twitter on the other hand tries to feed me right wing news sources and disinformation all the time. There's a spectrum here and TikTok is far on the other side.

Also to be frank the algorithm is by far the best out of any company with a "for you" algorithm. It blows pretty much anything else out of the water entirely.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Go watch a few truck or bbq tik toks and watch it backslide. Anything that is vaguely a “manly hobby.” You’ll be surprised how quickly Ben Shapiro winds up in front of you.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I watch more tiktok than I'm proud of, and YouTube is actually way worse for this. Youtube I've actually started using some private browsing for things that I think might turn to Joe Rogan or whatever because on that platform you're like 7 videos from "i'd like to check out some camping videos" to "here's how to protect yourself from the woke mob in the apocalypse which will happen next Tuesday courtesy of Ben Shapiro."

The thing that worries me about tiktok is they're too good at this. It would honestly be extremely easy for them to tip the scales.

[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the internet media is famously skewed right, its a pure fact.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally. It’s just an invisible off ramp every few clicks

I have a friend who actively uses youtube for only audio books on literal marxism and they still give him ads for fucking prager U and shit

[–] punseye@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People rightfully call out TikTok as a spyware because of their ties with CCP, but how exactly are other social media giants and big tech any different as they too have ties with the CIA, FBI etc

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Basically, most social media reads out everything that is openly accessible, like cookies, address books and contacts, etc.
TikTok goes deeper, it has been watched going into protected files, trying to break encryptions (sometimes being successful).

[–] KillAllPoorPeople@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You need to source things instead of just spewing bullshit you hear on the grapevine.

Don't we have a different tiktok than the Chinese one? There are specifically US folks in charge of the non China Tiktok. Wasn't one of the security heads a former US state security agent?

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Why do you think it's more spyware than any other big tech mobile app or social media?

And based on my experience getting hooked so fast into while I didn't want to touch it, it seems it has the best algorithm. I'm off it now, like all other social media expect for fediverse, but I can testify on this

[–] Polar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

bans LGBT+ people

Source? because I follow a ton of LGBTQIA+ people without any issue.

[–] euphoric_cat@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

follow someone long enough and eventually they complain that their videos are being taken down with zero reason, and being banned outright. an example is sanrioangel I think her name is, she's had so many tiktok accounts banned for no reason other than being trans

just because they haven't rolled out the jackboots doesnt mean they haven't deployed some.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

Idk, I find it's algorithm very easy to control compared to every other social media, its much easy to manipulate. My fyp is full of gay people so idk what you mean by the second statement.

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Needed three graphics.