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We are so fucked. Mother fuckers can't use their brain for two seconds. What ya gonna do with all the salt. Power is only a little bit of limiting factor of desalination plants
One of the challenging issues with a complex problem is that the problem is not solved until the whole thing is solved.
One of the nice things about a complex problem is that you don't have to solve the whole thing at once in order to make progress toward a complete solution.
I don't know the state of the art on dealing with waste brine. If that is already deemed insoluble above a certain scale, then we better not invest in anything that exceeds that scale. On the other hand, if research into handling waste brine in sustainable ways is ongoing and making progress, then why not continue attacking the extraction problem?
I mean if the water is being used for drinking then put the brine into the treatment plant outfall so that it matches the salinity of the body of water it's being discharge into....
It's not quite that simple. After extracting water, matching salinity would require extracting salt or adding water. It's not that there aren't sources of water that can be used for salinity matching, including the output of sewage treatment, the reality is that it probably makes more sense to treat that water than to desalinate in the first place.
Extracting the salts might be a source of valuable minerals and metals, but there is still no free lunch.
As far as I know, we still would be putting stuff back that doesn't make a good match for what we took. That means depending on the natural environment for dilution and "treatment". That has been an ongoing problem for humanity. We're very good at exceeding the capacity of the environment to cope with our wastes.
I completely understand the comment about perpetual motion machines, but tend to think that it's more of a scale management problem than a strict prohibition.
I live in Vancouver BC, our drinking water comes essentially from mountain run off and snow melt in two local watersheds. We get less and less every year.
My thought is that with distillation we could use brackish/ river water, then concentrate the brine until it's as salty as ocean water and put it in the ocean.
My thought about sewer outfalls was that adding the brine to the sewer flow should pretty much match the salinity of the source because any volume that goes into the pipes comes out of the sewers. (minus some evaporation).