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Yup, boarder towns in red states are going to start stopping women as they travel through their towns to make sure they aren't pregnant.

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[–] dion_starfire@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The "hand them what they ask for" is important in Texas. It used to be legal to refuse to present ID unless you were being detained. As of the 1st, that's now a crime.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Woah seriously?

The "papers please" phrase has been a hyperbolic meme as the prime example of fascism, and Texas just put that into law?!

How is this not a fourth amendment violation?

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Multiple states now have a mandatory ID law where if police stop you you must provide identification (technically the police need to have a reasonable suspicion you may have committed a crime, but that's a super low bar to pass). You don't necessarily have to have an ID on you, but you do have to provide your name, address, and maybe DOB depending on the state. Of course in the case of a traffic stop you obviously need a driver's license.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

To quote supreme court Justice alito "there is no 4th in regards to drugs". So yeah just claim it is to stop drug trafficking and then fir what ever else you want.

[–] jimbo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This applies if you're driving and get pulled over. You're not required to show an ID in other situations. If you're arrested, you must give your name, residence, and date of birth. If you're detained, you are not required to give information, but you can't give false information.

https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/docs/PE/htm/PE.38.htm (see 38.02)