I lasted a little longer but not much. It really was bad. I reinstalled it after their giant patch that was supposed to fix it and gave it a second chance: the shooting was better but the main issues with everything else were still there.

It was like they asked ChatGPT to create a Saints game.

[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

City Unleashed: Crime Revolt

Default (GPT-3.5)

User Create the plot for a game similar to the first four Saints Row games

ChatGPT Title: "City Unleashed"

Plot: In the sprawling metropolis of Havencross, crime syndicates have taken control, leaving the city in chaos. You play as a street-smart vigilante who rises to power in order to reclaim the city from the clutches of these criminal organizations. As you build your own crew and establish dominance, you'll face off against rival gangs, corrupt officials, and powerful crime lords.

Starting as a small-time crook with a personal vendetta, you'll complete daring heists, engage in intense street races, and execute audacious stunts to earn respect and resources. Your actions catch the attention of an underground resistance that seeks to topple the syndicates. They offer you support, guidance, and a chance to reshape Havencross.

The game offers an open-world environment, allowing you to explore the sprawling city, engage in a variety of activities, and make choices that influence the narrative. Customization plays a significant role, not only in terms of your character's appearance but also in building your gang's identity, from outfits to vehicles to hideouts.

Throughout the game, you'll encounter memorable characters, each with their own motivations and backstories. As you forge alliances and rivalries, the balance of power in the city shifts dynamically. The story takes unexpected turns as you uncover the dark secrets behind the syndicates' rise to power and their connections to influential figures in the city.

With a blend of over-the-top action, humor, and engaging storytelling, "City Unleashed" captures the essence of the first four Saints Row games, delivering a high-octane, open-world experience filled with outrageous missions, explosive combat, and a dynamic environment that reacts to your choices.

ChatGPT did way better.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'll be honest, that is kinda how the new Saints Row was probably pitched in the design docs.

The problem is in the details. They failed to:

Create other games worth mention.
Have memorable characters.
Implement motivating vendettas or any personal motivation.
Make the city feel alive, which invalidates the whole open-world environment (a criticism I'd level against CP2077 too, it feels way too sterile).
Have any meaningful way of influencing your relationship with characters or forces.
Have a story worth mentioning.

In a lot of ways, the pitch document probably describe a good game. Just like ChatGPT does, there. But note how your mind is filling in that all of this would end up in the actual game, and be competently done. And that's where the actual GenZ Saints Row fell apart, too.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SR2 was the peak of the series for me. I played 3 and 4 but they already felt like they were being constrained by budget even back then. They were mostly copy pasted mini games with far fewer missions.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah there's always a lot of divided audience feedback. SR2 was too serious for me still, it felt like a low-budget GTA clone and I wasn't even a GTA fan in the first place.

But SR3 and 4? They were so ridiculously over the top, they parodied the whole genre. A genre I love to see made fun of, so they were perfect for me.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SR2 just felt like the crazy Vice City sequel that Rockstar refused to give me at the time.

San Andreas, GTA4 felt too serious. SR3 and 4 felt too silly, to the point of turning into Crackdown.

GTA5 felt back on track though, and that's probably mostly down to Trevor. You can cause utter mayhem without breaking character.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

3 struck the perfect balance for me, it was like playing an action movie that didn't take itself too seriously while still maintaining a tenuous grasp on reality. 4 fully jumped the shark for me and was hard to enjoy.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't even bother buying it. The trailers looked so bad and then you'd have to wait for a Steam release. No thanks. When the first gameplay videos dropped it looked like absolute trash and really just rehashed all the repetitive content from the previous games, which was plentifully criticized to be a huge weakpoint of them already, with a lame story, idiotic characters and a boring map on top of it. It was just a rehash of all the bad, but I guess that's all they could pull off.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

For me, the big "Nope" was how despite being a modern game and running like arse (and not looking all that well), the streets are mostly empty. I mean at the very least I would assume they could re-implement SR3 one-to-one in more ... opulent?

But instead it looks and feels worse than the older games, even in a direct comparison, because everything is dead and empty and still stutters like crazy.