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[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 48 points 1 year ago (5 children)

he pleaded not guilty. and his lawyer said this is "an attack on america".

'cause he had boxes of papers he wasn't supposed to have, that this is an attack on america? yeah, okay πŸ™„

[–] squid010@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is gonna be wild... the feds hardly ever lose.

With that, I'm very curious to see the fallout should he be convicted.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i'm a little worried some of his cultists may find their way onto the jury and block a conviction

[–] Spitfire@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All it takes is one. They’ll refuse to consider anything other than not guilty.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the rest of the jury can ask the judge to remove one who is not deliberating in good faith

[–] MothBookkeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's reassuring.

[–] Hellebert@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Oh man they're probably all having wet dreams over being "the hero that saves America" or something right now.

[–] reverendsteveii@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they have him on tape showing people documents that he says are classified and that he also knows that he could have declassified them while in office but that he hasn't.

[–] cptnflinty@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah he's so fucked. Caught red handed worse than Nixon.

[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

i am not excited to see the fallout, especially right before i am about to move out of a red state πŸ™ƒ

[–] idle@158436977.xyz 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whataboutism will be endless as well

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Celediel@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

*insert always has been meme here*

[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

here you go πŸ’™

[–] reverendsteveii@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

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glad to help.

[–] Spitfire@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I work with many people who are so upset over this, calling it injustice and how horrible that we choose to prosecute Trump when we should instead be jailing Hillary, Harris, and Biden.

I bite my tongue and don’t say anything but it’s so frustrating.

[–] awake01@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As far as Hillary goes I am not sure why Trump's DoJ didn't hand down an indictment if it had evidence that she ultimately committed a crime? I guess the same is true for Hunter.

[–] GodOfSnails@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

To my knowledge and I am prefacing this with I could be wrong. In order to charge Hillary for the email incident they would have had to prove either Intent or Gross negligence and when it came down to Hillary I dont think the Doj had anything along the lines of these two factors, whereas trump and they even qoute him, hes talking about how the information is still classified but yada yada this happened, that fills the intent part and then for the gross negligence part they talk about how they found the boxes of files just strewn about everywhere in the club.

Feel free to correct me, this is just my understanding.

[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago

oh yeah! thank you for saying that :) trump had the doj under his control and still didn't have enough evidence to indict her. i would think that would shut up the "jail hillary and joe" crowd, but i guess they have super short term memory

[–] MothBookkeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I probably shouldn't, but I let those people know what I think. If they want to bring it up, they can hear what I have to say about it too.

[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

same here. i'm all for treating everyone as equal, but i'm pretty sure nothing new came up after hillary was already investigated and iirc biden was slapped on the wrist for not returning some documents. but hey, you know, one box is the same as rooms full of boxes, apparently

[–] Spitfire@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

The difference seems to me, as far as I know (please correct me if I have missed something) is that Biden and related parties cooperated with getting the documents returned while Trump hid and tried to erase evidence that he had them. And I believe that some have yet to be found, potentially sold off.

[–] MothBookkeeper@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

He's just a walking blizzard of dishonesty.

[–] bouncing@partizle.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

his lawyer said this is β€œan attack on america”.

I'm wondering if the lawyers who quit did so because they were too embarrassed to say shit like that in court, despite a certain client's demands.

[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 4 points 1 year ago

the lawyers that quit are lawyers who don't want to perjure themselves, probably πŸ™ƒ