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[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Quantity is truly the missing element of a “feels like old trek” modern trek. Modern studio sensibilities just can’t stomach having a 25 episode season, but you need to spend that much time with a cast to become sufficiently attached and have a fleshed out world. High quality short seasons are good for prestige TV but for ensemble explorations of philosophy in a sci fi setting, 10 episodes doesn’t cut it.

Everything always feels in such a damn rush because writers are either afraid they aren’t going to get to tell all the stories they want or they’re fearful/ pressured that if every episode isn’t the end of the world stakes that people won’t be invested. Too high stakes is such an anti trope at this point in almost all screen media.

[–] Disgustoid@startrek.website 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I disagree with the idea that you can't get attached to characters or have a fleshed out world in shorter seasons. I've become more attached to the SNW and Lower Decks characters in 20 and 30 episodes, respectively, and to the characters in the Expanse (for a non Trek example) than I ever did with Voyager's or Enterprise's characters over hundreds of episodes. The key is good writing and acting that fleshes out the characters, not having 26 episodes, half of which are inconsequential or worse, outright garbage. I do agree that 10 episodes is on the short side and think 13 would be ideal.

As for the stakes being higher and higher iterations of the end of the world, again that's a separate issue with writing, not always tied to a short season length.

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

That’s fair, I’m not saying it’s bad in any way, but I doubt the experience is enhanced in any way by it being a more tight story (unlike many dramas where succinctness does add to the plot). It would just be that much better if it had a little time and space to breath.

I think if you had 26 episodes of which only 10 were worthwhile it’d be about the same difference. The trick is more episodes without sacrificing quality too much. Obviously a big ask but that’s why it’s hard to make good tv lol

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