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[–] Baphomet_The_Blasphemer@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We spent twenty years fighting their battles for them, $2.3 trillion spent helping build up their infrastructure, supplying them with weapons and training, and trying to help them build a legitimate democratic government. After all our efforts, expenses, and American lives lost, it took the Taliban just ten days to retake the entire country. Freedom can't be given it has to be won, and frankly they weren't willing to fight for theirs... and I say this as a disabled combat veteran who lost dozens of friends to this conflict either in combat or to their own hands once they returned home. What a waste.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair Russia, the UK and the US also took turns totaly destroying the country for the better part of the last century. We can't give them their freedom back on a plate but we shouldn't forget that we're also the ones that took it away. That money and those lives weren't some kind of gift they were an attempt to undo the collective damage we've done.

[–] Harrison@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

The Soviets had their go at nationbuilding. Their puppet state survived eight years after they withdrew as well, which is a fair bit longer than the ten days we managed.

[–] joystick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I agree, the hard truth is it's on them. The people of Afghanistan collectively lacked the will to fight for their freedom. It's a stark contrast with places like Ukraine.