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New Covid wave has begun and masks should be worn again, scientists warn
(www.independent.co.uk)
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You mean this data? https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
If so, then don't just look at the positive tests but at the graph that shows tests performed. Positive tests goes up but tests performed is relatively the same. That tells you it is a real increase in positivity. It could be the start of another big peak, or not. Time will tell, but you'd think going through the last years one should pay attention to such statistics. Because if you start taking measures only when you are back to 100.000+ cases a day you are a bit too late.
and patients committed
I "admit" committed is funny because that's what COVID and all of the "I did my own research" hoopla has made me feel like. That I've been committed to an insane asylum with all of the loonies spreading their theories justifying their behavior without impunity thereby making COVID more deadly as it lasts longer given such time to continuously mutate......
No, because if hysteria would be an appropriate response it wouldn't be hysteria. The good news is: no one is calling for hysteria, there's just a recommendation to wear masks.
Right back at you. Please show me where I am not "chill" here? There is one person who is not chill and its certainly not me.
You can still choose to wear a mask or not, theres no law yet or is there? So just don't, I guess?
The smaller bumps by the way occur because people kept getting vaccines and boosters. How does that look like where you are? When was the last time you got a shot or a booster? From the sound of it a while ago.
this proves you don't understand what you're talking about at all. there was never a compelling reason to stop masking according to the data. period.
that's nice. it's also tantamount to covid denial, so you can just take it and shove it right back up your ass where it came from.
you're right, i'm sorry. it's just downplaying a deadly and ongoing virus and dismissing the most effective method of protection against it as not necessary.
don't talk to me, you're disgusting.
Come down from your pedestal for a moment. The world isn’t binary. The most effective method of protection against it would be total self-isolation, but I’m guessing you’re not advocating for that, so I’m going to assume that means you agree that there’s a limit to how far we should go to reduce the spread of the virus. We clearly disagree on where that point is.
I understand it’s uncomfortable having your viewpoints challenged, but you are acting like a petulant child. If you’re going to argue with me, the least you could do is talk about the issue and try to convince me of your viewpoint. I’m very open to changing my views, but the only learning experience I’m currently enjoying is that a good number of the users here are extremely bigoted.
If you genuinely don’t want me to talk to you, you can just block me, or stop replying.
not interested in your condescending "more mature than thou" masturbatory horseshit, people like you have led to the deaths of countless innocents. go jerk off into your own mouth, i don't have time for debate perverts
You have no idea whatsoever about what kind of person I am. You’re literally yelling at a strawman.
Also, I’m not trying to debate. I’m trying to build solidarity across the working class. We should be working together to fight against the elites, not treating eachother like shit.
Take a step back, get some perspective, and stop acting so indignant over nothing.
fine, we can agree on this if nothing else.
I’m almost certain we agree on more things than we disagree on, to be honest. For example, I believe that the way that the pandemic was handled by the majority of western nations was an absolute disgrace, basically sacrificing countless vulnerable people on the altar of capitalism, and that withholding the vaccine from third world nations is just absurdly immoral.
I’m sure our opinions differ on a few points, but I think that we will generally agree on the majority of the things that are important.
Anyways, if you have the time, inclination, and energy, I’d really appreciate it if you could help me understand your perspective on this a bit better. I promise I’m not going to “well, actually” or debate bro you, I’m just trying to see broader perspectives a bit better. If you don’t want to for whatever reason, then I understand, and either way I hope you’re doing well and that you have a great day.
To the best of my knowledge there is no meaningful surveillance in the USA or EU. Some places are still doing wastewater testing but it's difficult to make solid determinations from wastewater.
Is there still surveillance in the UK? Afaik Wales is still doing wastewater testing, but I'm not aware of any other systematic surveillance being conducted now.
If I'm reading that right they did 30k tests and got 6k positives, about 17%. I would consider that enough infection going around to be very concerned. Am I misunderstanding those numbers?