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The Ecosystemic Futures Podcast, which is sponsored by NASA's Convergent Aeronautics Solutions Project, had an episode titled "Beyond Conventional Physics: Extended Electrodynamics, Lattice Confinement Fusion, Zero-Point Energy and Advanced Propulsion" with Hal Puthoff among the participants as well as many others.
Another user shared the episode, but I wanted to highlight some details because my previous research touches on these topics. It's very interesting how openly they are discussing using UAP as an archetype to allow more ambitious and out of the box research as well as UAP as evidence that we may have observed some speculative theoretical technologies that have already been developed by someone/something. This is the pragmatic kind of approach I've been advocating for years. This is how you "reverse engineer" without even getting your hands on anything anomalous. You simply work backwards from anomalous reports and use the most advanced out of the box ideas available to help you fill in the gaps. Then you start testing and building to see if you could be onto something.
It's a long podcast at over 3 hours. I listened to it twice and took notes. I can't cover everything, but lots of interesting stuff stood out to me and that's what I will cover mostly in chronological order.
Fusion
The guests are presented as the leading experts in energy and aerospace. The interviewer has a background in finance funding technology related to these sectors. The very first person introduced is Larry Forsley of Global Energy Corporation (GEC) and he discusses lattice confinement fusion (LCF) research he's done with NASA. Louis Dechiaro of Naval Surface Warfare Center Indian Head is also introduced and discusses low energy nuclear reactions (LENR.) Dechiaro brings up coupled Maxwell Heavyside equations or what others refer to as extended electrodynamics (EED.) I've covered the work of these people before. "Some members of GEC also hold a 2003 patent for “System and method for generating particles” which basically claims transmutation and is assigned to the Navy and JWK international Corp. JWK is affiliated with SPAWAR. The Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command (SPAWAR) is now called NAVWAR and in 2009 they apparently boasted 20 years of researching LENR." You can learn more about this in this article titled, "Why is the DOE funding cold fusion?"
Later in the episode, Forsley explains that when he became aware of EED he wanted to see if it could change conditions for lattice confinement fusion and found that it does and also for conditions found in tokamaks used for conventional hot fusion. He elaborates that lasers, magnetic mirrors, tokamaks are all too big and are fusion approaches that can't be commercialized (something I've also been saying for years.) This is why he looked into LCF because it would allow for small compact fusion reactors which have an easier path to commercialization. He says that they are looking into using it to melt ice such as on Europa. [I can't help myself and have to interject that one could also melt ice in Antarctica if one wanted to. I cover how Antarctica is a hot bed of interest here, here, and here. You may understand the potential link after reading those articles.] Later on, he even claims that collogues in the UK have already made LCF into a commercial product to produce medical radio isotopes for medicine. It sounds like he's making it clear that LCF is already being commercialized as a technology. The theory is that the nuclear reactions are not actually cold or low energy, but that the heating is incredibly localized on a small scale and that trapping the atoms in the lattice also lowers the required energy for fusion via electron screening. This is how fusion is happening under conditions once believed to be impossible because it was "too cold" to be possible.
Extended Electrodynamics (EED)
There is also a lot of discussion of EED and how it was actually first discovered in the 1920's or earlier. They explain it as scalar and vector potentials that have no associated electromagnetic fields but do have measurable quantum effects. Essentially, potentials in the equations normally ignored as having no practical applications are thought of as very real and treated as fields that could under the right circumstances produce measurable forces. These forces could be used for communication through media such as water, plasma or even solid objects because there are no interactions like those associated with conventional electromagnetic fields. (I find this fascinating as I've proposed a way to make the vacuum balloon work using plasma and one thing, I never worked out was how to communicate through the plasma for it to operate.) In the discussion there are reports of Russian colleagues that have allegedly moved objects at a distance using EED.
I think a guest named Phil Lentz (?) discusses experiments he believes shows that space-time can be modified. Discussion that there are pulsar anomalies as well as anomalies in acceleration when we use gravity assist for space probes that suggest we need to rework some ideas. There is discussion about generating gravity waves in the lab using a wave guide and a small-scale LIGO is being built.
Puthoff discusses the possibility that blue shift of space-time metric engineering technology could cause material bonds to blue shift which would make material go into water and land by making it as if it were butter. I think he's saying if you blueshift the bonds of the material of the craft that it could become so hard that it makes other materials behave like butter in comparison.
Consciousness and Detecting UAP
Puthoff also discusses EED could expand to consciousness if there are quantum processes associated with the human brain, which is something that has been put forward by Roger Penrose in the form of microtubules acting like quantum detectors. This is a potential explanation for psi phenomena as there would be a way for scalar potential waves to interact with the human body.
Puthoff claims a cheap broadband spectrometer that looks for nitrogen signature could prove a UAP is using space-time metric engineering. This is because the blue shift in the atmosphere should make the nitrogen in the atmosphere turn to plasma. He thinks a blue shifted blackbody spectrum from the heat signature would prove its using space-time metric engineering. However, another guest mentions doing the same to detect nuclear radiation so I'm a little confused as to if this method is the proof Puthoff claims it would be.
More EED
Someone mentions Dyatlov's work on the vacuum. He claims former senator of Armed Services Committee Kirk McConnel has referenced this work. I think this is the work they are speaking about.
They discuss potential for faster than light communication. Puthoff mentions that Urban says vacuum fluctuations induce effects on light over time and discusses how this could be used to change the speed of light itself. [This almost sounds like a potential explanation for the tired light theory, which is related to cosmology and if it was substantiated would allow steady state model theory to flourish once again. (No Big Bang, instead an eternal Universe dominated by plasma physics.)] Puthoff later expands that from an engineering perspective you are changing the permeability of space to engineer the speed of light.
Chase says energy density is key to space-time metric engineering. He discusses some spark gap experiments that he thinks made gravity waves. This reminds me of Ken Shoulders, but he doesn't mention the name nor elaborate much on the work. He says that he is about to try to publish in a journal and that the work was supported by the NSF.
Anomalous Material
Richard Banduric claims that he's been pulled into classified programs and concluded that the technology is not US government. He discusses his own work using longitudinal forces in condu...
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